Hug a Thug or Slug a Thug? Chicago Cease Fire vs Detroit 300
It is the first week of June and cats are already in pure Black on Black violence mode. Down here in Atlanta, they had a rare funereal shooting and cats acting all surprised. I’m sitting here like ATL people don’t know they come at cats funereal also? It is apparent that crime in the Black community is completely out of control and overrun by thugs who have no respect for Black life and killing themselves and each other with no regard.
There are two groups out there trying to deal with these thugs, the first is the Chicago Cease Fire where they try to intervene in conflicts and calm all parties down to avoid escalation to violence. Then you got Detroit 300 where they strapping up, ain’t playing with thugs and hunting them down. So we got two approaches where these groups are choosing to hug a thug or slug a thug. The question is, which method do you think is the most effective?
Hug a Thug: Chicago Cease Fire
Cease Fire is an intervention group focusing on conflict resolution before conflict escalates. It appear Cease Fire understand all it takes is one person to shoot at another person, that person is going to shoot back, other cats are going to start shooting, cats family members going to get shot and so on and so on. And all this Black on Black killing started over a f*cking dice game and $10.
So what Cease Fire do is go out and try to connect to the cats on the streets and befriend them and let them know to contact them to prevent any violence from happening. They usually recruit people who have a reputation in the streets to speak to other cats in the streets about conflict resolution and to allow them to intervene instead of going to guns.
The only problem is Chicago violence has increased, not decline while Cease Fire is in full operation. Cease Fire is becoming somewhat of a media darling because for some strange reason, liberals love watching movies and reading books featuring Morgan Freeman about us Blacks acting calm and reasonable and forgiving when cats are trying to kill, marginalize and destroy us.
Slug a Thug: Detroit 300
Now, Detroit 300 is straight raw and basically saying they are not playing no damn friendly games with thugs who are killing our kids and putting the entire Black community of Detroit under constant fear. They appear to indirectly called people like the Rev. Al Sharpton a straight p*ssy and said that it going to take real men to make the boys stand down.
Detroit 300 basically stated they are going to use the laws of Michigan to legally kick in doors, break down windows and conduct citizen arrest on anybody who committed a felony. One thing these Detroit 300 cats conveniently left out was Detroit has a Stand Your Ground law and a carry state that allows cats to shoot brothas who appear to be a threat.
However, Detroit 300 appear to be driven by ego and personality and macho man attitude more than techniques and tactics to deal with thugs. First of all, it do not just take “men” to hunt down felons – I got sistas in my circle who can hunt cats down and gun cats down way more effective than any brotha can ever imagine. Second, they appear to violate every major Art of War law when it comes to dealing with the enemy. If thugs are your enemy, you have to setup techniques to infiltrate, get street informants and track these thugs.
Which Side Are You On?
Do you believe thugs should just receive a warm fuzzy hug or thugs should get straight slugged? Cease Fire does give these thugs an outlet to resolve their “conflicts” but the problem is most Black on Black violence is not conflict escalation but over some petty bullsh*t that exploded instantly into violence. Also, Cease Fire does not address cats that do home invasions, raping teenage sistas and stuff like that. Gang-related violence is a small percentage of Black-on-Black violence but this is what Cease Fire focus on the most.
Detroit 300 put a line in the sand and is going after anybody who is a danger and threat to the Black community. The problem with Detroit 300 is if these thugs are willing to shoot at police, what makes the Detroit 300 less of a target of these crazed thugs? Keep in mind some of these thugs are on LSD or heroin and crazy as hell with super physical strength while under the influence. If you going after thugs, you better be ready to kill or be killed and kill em hard too. But what you going to see happen is one of the mothers of these thugs protecting her thug son is going to start crying and calling Detroit 300 monsters.
Identify or talk to the brothas and sistas in the community or chase them down with lynch mob fervor after they already did damage to someone in the community. Do we hug thugs or slug thugs? What’s your position?
Well, I don’t believe in giving out to many hugs to men. I think thats border line gay. I rather strap up. I am willing to take out anyone that is willing to harm me or my family using extreme force even when not neccessary. It’s like a military friend of mines once said. I have to eliminate the threat at all cost.
I applaud both organizations for trying to do something to stop the BS. But I don’t agree with their methods. They both have never worked in the Post Civil Rights era. Most of us grew up in the drug/gang era and look at the black community. Worse than ever. I think we need a combination. Positive and protecting, but will send anyone destroying the Black community to Satan for doing some backward shit. And it needs to be realistic. Black male unemployment 75%…if a cat can’t eat..he’s kickin’ in a door and robbin’ folks. That’s the real problem. Ain’t no money. Realistic solutions will help…Black America must work on the solution, not a few.
This week is the gun turn in. In my opinion it is naive to think turning in guns will stop violence. It is hot and best believe that very same weekend Chicago will be in the headlines again for violent shootings. I say that because those folks will turn in the guns no questions asked (right?), then go get another one to do what they do.. Meanwhile the police could be holding the guns that have killed all these children in Chicago. I hear about Cease Fire all the time. Both organizations want to help their cities but I still think pacifying these people will not work. Then there is the Guardian Angels who intervene in robberies and stuff putting themselves at risk. I do not agree with either Cease Fire or Detroit 300.
“I’m sitting here like ATL people don’t know they come at cats funereal also?” But Ed that’s one of the great things about living here! The violence is pretty damn phony and (for better or worse) generally limited to certain areas. Atlanta doesn’t have that level of all out warfare where people shoot up funerals, churches, or wherever they find you.
I love the Detroit 300!! This is a slap in the face to all those cowards sitting around talking about “we” can’t do anything! But, why is it that When Black folks get together to do something serious, there is always some clown standing around with sunglasses on? Like the Easy E wannabe in this video.
Thanks Ed for highlighting these organizations and bringing attention to what actions are being taken in the community to address violence. However, I feel that both of these approaches are limited in effectiveness and only deal with the symptoms of a problem, rather than the cause.
When we examine who we are being, our values, perceptions, ideologies, committments, and beliefs, we can better understand why “Junior” is strapped and don’t give a F*&K about anything or anyone else, including himself. I look to the Seven Principles of the Nguzo Saba, which is normally practiced during Kwanzaa, as a mindset that will directly impact the many causes of disfuctional behavior within the Black community.
I’d also welcome feedback about the ” Snitching” mindset that is prevelant within the community. I believe it is the #1 obstacle to really making a difference in the lives of peolple living in the “Hood”! What do you think?
Being from Detroit, I’ll say the Detroit 300 strategy is dangerous but I don’t think you hug thugs at all. These kids are crazy out here and in situations that they come from they don’t give a damn. This mentality makes both angles tough to execute. We have to do a better job as parents, mentors, and coaches while these kids are young. When the streets get a hold of them they don’t turn back. And its sad because a lot of the kids we lose are smart and capable of changing the world.
You get no where with violence. You can talk to someone till your blue in the face but they have to be ready to receive the information. The black community has to lead by example and realize that change is not going to happen over night. We have to draw the line between looking out for ourselves and helping our fellow man.
Show these kids that they can start their own companies. (trust if you can sell drugs and plot to kill someone then you can become a business person) School them to the game of life. Help them to realize that not all black people are in jail or on welfare. Teach them to research the facts and not believe everything they hear especially from so call news channels and other sources.
There are positive black people who are really trying to change things. Not like that fake ass Al Sharpton or Jesse NO Class Jackson. NO one will help them if they don’t help themselves. They must let go of the low life mentality that will get them in dead or in jail. They need to know the truth and that’s what’s missing.
They see a fantasy world on television with fake rappers and actors portraying a lifestyle that is not real and try to emulate that but don’t realize a lot of those people are not rich and doing who and what they can to get some fame that won’t last but a minute.
WAKE UP people. Stop throwing these kids to the wolves and not being responsible parents grandparents. Stop telling them that they are dumb and stupid and don’t know nothing. Don’t speak negativity into their lives You rep what you sow. Stop letting the school system tell you that your children are ADD, ADHD and drug them up so that you can receive a check from the government.
Stop cursing, drinking and smoking around them. Don’t bringing all types of people into their lives that you’ve only know for a minute. Stop being so passive and letting them suffer sexual and mental abusive especially if it comes from someone else. Stand up for them! Teach them how to be young women and men who are about something.
Don’t be afraid to get them help. Do the research and seek out professionals who are looking out for your childs welfare. And if you don’t have the money or insurances find programs that will assist you in getting the proper help. Don’t make excuses and then wonder why they turned out they way you didn’t want them too.
Spend sometime with them. Talk to them but don’t preach or holler at them. You will get no where with that approach. Be their parent and not their friend(they have plenty of those) set limits and apply rules because if you don’t the system will and they will be behind bars before you know it.
Educate them about AIDS,STD’s and how drugs will ruin their lives and eventually kill them. Its never to late to reach out to them and help them. It starts with us the adults.